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you apparently missed the whole point. Remember the law in the Old Covenant is the same law in the New Covenant... Sorry Joe Jr., Albrecht, Feazell and Schnippert (sons of Belial) deceived you.

Jesus said I will build my church in Matthew. The rock you referred to with himself so that’s all any of us really need to do to dismiss your claim that Jesus was never in a church. He was building his church and the Rocky was building it on was himself. He was the best the one prophesied.

You have said so much that is not true that it’s not even worth replying in any detail. The sabbath is a commanded day of rest and worship and has been a commanded day of rest since creation.

And you’ve taken Paul’s writings completely out of context because anybody who tries to keep a sabbath or the holy days the way they were commanded is judged so he said don’t let people judge you with respect to your keeping of the sabbath your keeping of the holy days you’re keeping of the festivals he’s not saying don’t let any sabbath and holy day, keeping person judge you for not keeping those days and festivals.

@@e.richardscholz2338 do you thing just because you keep the Sabbath you will inherit heaven? then in that case Christ died on the cross for nothing. We are to rest in the work of Christ - Jesus Christ finished the work on the cross. We are to rest and enjoy the completion of work which God has done for us. We are no longer under the curse of the garden, but Christ has become a curse for us. Attempts to sanctify by the observance of the Law is forbidden in the New Covenant since it diminishes the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. We should go to church on Sunday - Not observing the OT Sabbath (on Saturday or Sunday) is not to say that we should forsake the assembling of ourselves. We must gather together for corporate worship with other believers on a consistent basis. We do this, not as a fulfillment of the Sabbath law as stated in the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament, but for all the reasons given in the New Testament. The very essence and meaning for the Sabbath is the worship of God wherein we find true rest for our soul (Isaiah 58:13-14). Observing a day of rest is healthy and right - It is right and good to rest. It is a good principle and helps us keep the right balance in life. Those that do not take the effort to rest and work continually usually are displaying a lack of right priorities in their life. Rest regularly every week, but not for religious sake. We should inform others that there is no Christian Sabbath - There are some that desire to keep a Christian Sabbath out of the conviction that it represents a more Christian viewpoint. There are some that may argue that this person is the weaker brother described in Romans 14, and therefore, should not be judged. We should not judge the weaker brother. At the same time, we should come alongside this brother and teach them according to the Scriptures how they are in error. For example, if this same brother desired to be circumcised (as a religious observation and not medical/health reasons)? What if a brother desired to offer a lamb sacrifice in the church parking lot as a religious observation? What if a couple that just had a child desired to bring two turtledoves to church next Sunday as an offering (Lev 12:8; Luke 2:24)? What if all these people said they were doing all this in faith? Of course, what we should do is take these Christians to the Scripture and teach them how they are in error. The Sabbath observance is just as integral and part of the Mosaic Law as these other examples. So, just as we would teach the weaker brother in these areas, we should lovingly teach them regarding the Sabbath. God bless brother

@@e.richardscholz2338do you thing that by keeping the Sabbath you will inherit Heaven? if that is the case then Christ died on the Cross for nothing. We are to rest in the work of Christ - Jesus Christ finished the work on the cross. We are to rest and enjoy the completion of work which God has done for us. We are no longer under the curse of the garden, but Christ has become a curse for us. Attempts to sanctify by the observance of the Law is forbidden in the New Covenant since it diminishes the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. We should go to church on Sunday - Not observing the OT Sabbath (on Saturday or Sunday) is not to say that we should forsake the assembling of ourselves. We must gather together for corporate worship with other believers on a consistent basis. We do this, not as a fulfillment of the Sabbath law as stated in the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament, but for all the reasons given in the New Testament. The very essence and meaning for the Sabbath is the worship of God wherein we find true rest for our soul (Isaiah 58:13-14). Observing a day of rest is healthy and right - It is right and good to rest. It is a good principle and helps us keep the right balance in life. Those that do not take the effort to rest and work continually usually are displaying a lack of right priorities in their life. Rest regularly every week, but not for religious sake. We should inform others that there is no Christian Sabbath - There are some that desire to keep a Christian Sabbath out of the conviction that it represents a more Christian viewpoint. There are some that may argue that this person is the weaker brother described in Romans 14, and therefore, should not be judged. We should not judge the weaker brother. At the same time, we should come alongside this brother and teach them according to the Scriptures how they are in error. For example, if this same brother desired to be circumcised (as a religious observation and not medical/health reasons)? What if a brother desired to offer a lamb sacrifice in the church parking lot as a religious observation? What if a couple that just had a child desired to bring two turtledoves to church next Sunday as an offering (Lev 12:8; Luke 2:24)? What if all these people said they were doing all this in faith? Of course, what we should do is take these Christians to the Scripture and teach them how they are in error. The Sabbath observance is just as integral and part of the Mosaic Law as these other examples. So, just as we would teach the weaker brother in these areas, we should lovingly teach them regarding the Sabbath. God bless

Its even simpler Christ took the church to His Father after His resurrection. Then the earth church mystery of iniquity went to work building counterfeits. Many throughout the last 1900 years have understood this, been added, and their name is written with them in heaven. They are coming back with Christ to ingather all together.

Wait. The church went to heaven with Jesus when he was resurrected? Jesus didn’t even go to heaven for 40+ days. Also…what was going on in the book of acts with the apostles planting churches of the church went to heaven with Jesus when he resurrected?

@@nickswicegood4316 Jesus presented them (His Brethren) to the Father right after He told Mary Touch Me not in John 20:17 for I am not yet ascended to My Father, but go tell My Brethren (the risen firstfruits) "I ascend" (Mary then went to the disciples and told them that He had spoken these things-"Go tell the Brethren I ascend") Then He was seen for 40 days before His being taken up in the Cloud. Ten days later He sent the Spirit to birth the disciples so they could believe and understand. During the 40 days it was fine for them to touch Him.

In Acts the assemblies of the ecclesia is those called to believe - not the ecclesia taken to heaven. The Body of Christ ecclesia was taken to the Father. the believers - ecclesia are the assemblies of believers in what took place. Church is a very misleading word. An ecclesia is a called one. There were many added to the church / ecclesia in the first century. They were added to the fellowship Eph 3:8-9 who were fellowshipping in the mystery of the ascended firstfruits ecclesia. When we believe the gospel that God raised them we are added to the church in heaven. We are in fellowship with them as our Brethren and Christ's Brethren. Those who believe are attached to the ecclesia. added to them, but we are still on earth. We fellowship in Spirit and truth with them. We don't go anywhere to do that.We do it all day long.

Ok thanks for your personal interpretation:)

Jesus was not created. He pre-existed with the father as the word and became flesh. He was not created when he became flesh and blood after Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit.

John 1:1 and Eph 3:9 disagree with you. The God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ (Compare Ex 3 with John 8:58 and 1 Cor 10:4).

@@e.richardscholz2338 Jesus was created by the power of the Holy Ghost to become fetus in Mary's womb and conceived as a baby, created and growing into adult human with fullness of God the Father.

Well said. Now can you please just do a video on Jer 31:15-17 the Blessed Hope + The Resurrection of MANY in Luke 2:34-35 and Matthew 27:52 ? am not asking you to agree with me, but with God and scripture. You do realize that there was to be and there came into being a resurrection in Israel? Why isn't this taught in Christianity? Notice in Luke 2:34 the word "anastasis" is mistranslated as "rising again" this one time out of about 46 times it is used. WHY? This one verse has blinded Christianity for 1900 years. If every Christian knew about this resurrection caused by Jesus then Christianity would surely turn a corner. May God give you strength to rightly divide all of His Word (the truth) in all humility and truth! Blessings! venson555 on youtube

@@ronnieturner1356 well I’m not sure where we’re disagreeing obviously, there’s at least two correct in understandings possibly more of those scriptures and Jeremiah. When obvious first one can be associated with the male children that pilot had murdered because he didn’t want them to become king of the Jews, but a second full film of this of course, certainly associated with our understanding of ancient Israel, going into captivity and the descendants of them, possibly some of us around each other, going into a captivity at the end time and then being redeemed and brought back to the land of Israel during the millennium after Christ return so I don’t honestly know what we’re disagreeing about when it comes to this. You know if we were to be categorized in the little boxes that theologians like to put us in all of us who believe in the second coming of Christ and believe in a millennial reign of Christ on the earth with resurrected saints were called pre-millennial apocalyptics, which is kind of like the way we put people in Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, Catholic pigeonholes. I’m flattered that you think I’m actually involved in doing these videos. I’m just an overly energetic person in the church with 40 years having been baptized after being raised a protestant and I’m pretty enthusiastic about the promises by God to all his people with his plan of salvation pictured by the holy days , so that every person who ever lived or every will live at their time, will be called by the Father, will have their opportunity for conversion, a time of judgment with opportunity for eternal life as a God-being child in the household of God and Jesus Christ our elder brother. Judgment is now on the household of God and in the right time judgment will be on everybody else who hasn’t yet been called either because they were born too early, etc. People like to use the translation. This is the day of salvation when it should be in a day of salvation because there is more than one day of salvation, but you only get a chance in one of them. So you know that’s a pretty good summary if you wanna say you’re a heretic over here good tell me ! I was called an idiot so now I could be a heretical idiot or an idiotic heretic. I’m picking up titles every day! :-)

@@ronnieturner1356 Jeremiah 29:11 New King James Version For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

@@ronnieturner1356 Matthew 2752 refers to a group of people who were dead that were raised to to mortal life again not to immortality just like Lazarus was raised to mortal life and not immortality. He didn’t become a spirit being he didn’t become someone who could pass through walls and appear suddenly like Christ dead and that’s why I it’s almost laughable when you hear these people say are you born again? No, you are begotten again to a living. Hope you haven’t been born again until you’ve been born the spirit and you can do exactly what Christ I would like to say some of them. OK you’re born again. Come on just once just do it once for me please walk through a while and come out the other side then I’ll know you’re born again, believe Lazarus was right from the dead. I do. Do you believe that people came out of their graves and were known again by people like the relatives and friends? I do I believe that happened at Christ Resurrection but that’s not all of the dead that’s all these people are talking about, they certainly don’t have everything in perspective. Those people that were resurrected back to mortal life lived for some period of time and died again there’s no other possible translation or understanding of it. That makes any sense at all when you have to finally judge the validity of an understanding of is it consistent with everything from Genesis to revelation because the stuff that got changed clearly got changed within that context and it was something very important, it was it was documented. Can you imagine something important not being documented as a change when the apostles jump through hoops to come to an understanding that physical circumcision was changed to circumcision of the heart it wasn’t abolished. I hope I’m helping you but I’m not about to do a video.

@@ronnieturner1356 Would you argue that it’s mistranslated simply because it’s transmitted related differently? Why does a Greek word that’s used 42 times always have to have the same meaning that’s not what happens in Greek? First of all you asserting it was translated and now you’re asking me a hypothetical question about your , personal opinion that it was mistranslated. I don’t play “Rope a Dope”! Please clearly state your entire argument about what this seems to mean to you Wyatt’s miss translated, and what conclusions that were falsely coming to or what understandings are we false asleep coming to because of the alleged Miss translation. Once you’ve done all of those things I’ll have some ability to comment

And you assemble before the Church of the Firstborn written in heaven Heb 12:23 in Spirit and Truth and your name is written in the Lam'bs Book of Life. There is no Church on earth. We are added to the Church in heaven.

That is not a proper understanding of the scripture you for Christ was talking to a group of people. He was not saying that the kingdom of God was within you. He was talking about himself because he was standing there and the proper understanding is the kingdom of God is among you or, mixed other words, he was the representative of the kingdom of God. This thing has been studied many times and there are two camps. One is yours that it’s in you which is a little odd because I’m more logical understanding. Is that when you have been begotten by the Holy Spirit through repentance, let baptism and laying on his hands, you are someday going to be born into the kingdom of God so it’s not the kingdom of God that’s going to be in you rather that eventually you’re going to be in the kingdom of God

@@e.richardscholz2338 The Kingdom within is the inner man which can be regenerated by His word. The Kingdom has not come in its' fullness with observation, but it will when the firstfruits return with Christ. I know what Mr Armstrong taught about this but he was incorrect. We must come to see the Kingdom within our Spirit and be converted and regenerated. It is Both! The Kingdom within and the Kingdom coming in its' fullness.

@@ronnieturner1356 I think we’re probably agreeing more than we’re disagreeing, but we’re probably talking past each other so let’s just assume we’re on the same page for the sake of not getting into doubtful disputations. I think there’s a whole Lotta people out there who have absolutely no idea at all how far current 21st century practicing Christianity has departed from the faith once delivered to the Saints in the first century, and Mr. Shabi has pointed out very significant departures of Today’s version of Christianity from the faith once delivered to the Saints

@@e.richardscholz2338 Yes Paul said "The mystery of iniquity is already at work" It has worked exponentially today to hide the truth. I am not trying to dispute anyone. It is my reasonable service to God to share the truth and not be ashamed of any of it that I have received. I can be straightforward because of the internet and so many scoffers. Not my intention to offend, but whatever it tales to stir people up to the Power of God. Thanks for your comments.

Hi there! There’s also no Scripture commanding Sunday, while there has been one since Genesis on keeping Saturday as holy. Since you seem to want to worship on Sunday you should be happy to learn that the first century church and all the true church groups that follow all of their doctrines do in fact, keep one specific Sunday every year and that is Pentecost as counted 50 days or seven sabbaths of complete weeks starting inclusively on the morning after the Sabbath during the days of unleavened bread so that comes out on one day of the year which is Pentecost and other times during the year when an annual holy day falls on the first day of a week. What’s also of a “big hello” is that there’s no scripture authorizing the weekly day of rest to become Sunday, much less commanding it. You are correct in saying a lot of people before Constantine, we’re keeping Sunday. But they were keeping Sunday instead of keeping Saturday and that started a great big controversy between the Eastern church at the time and the Roman church. If that wasn’t enough fun, the Roman church decided that they would keep Easter and stop keeping Passover and that was more fun between the bishops of the east and the bishops of the west until finally, it got to be a knockdown drag out doctrinal fight, and Constantine finally settled It. Do you think Constantine settled it because he really was such a wonderful guy? I’m not his judge. I do think he was smart enough to realize that Christianity was the only religion that had the possibility of unifying his empire, and therefore his control over that empire. That would only be the case if they stop fighting amongst themselves so, you can look historically they had a conference finally resolved it in favor of the bishop of Rome and Constantine said that it came over anybody who deviates it from it is as good as dead, and some of them were dead as a result. Nothing of any of that justifies suggesting that keeping Sunday is “OK” as a SUBSTITUTE for keeping the Sabbath, or “OK” keeping Easter (a long ago pagan kept holiday.) You can certainly look up the Quartodeciman controversy. This was the argument over “dumping” Passover and adopting Easter and led to or was concurrent to the degree with the argument of shifting from the Sabbath to Sunday. If interested, you can look up the letters between Polycarp and the bishop of Rome, polarities, etc. if you would like further information, go to the United Chirch Of God website and put in keyword/Sunday Easter Passover and you’ll find their literature about it and you’re always invited to contact a United Church Of God minister in your area. You can find a list of UCG congregations near you and you can reach out to one of them and say I’ve got some doctrinal questions. You could say: “I’d like to talk with you as you local congregation seem to meet Within 20 miles of where I live, so why don’t we get a phone call together or maybe a zoom call or meet somewhere for coffee and I can ask you some questions that have been bothering me?” The Sabbath was a commanded weekly holy day from creation and nothing changed about that in spite of all “all laws have been done away with arguments”, ALL of which are scripturally unsound. So what are you really telling us is that you want go worship on Sunday? That’s OK so long as you’re keeping the Sabbath. If you want worship God twice a week I don’t think anybody’s going to try to stop you, if you’ve got time, you can take the Sabbath off to worship God the way He command it and then devote another day to worship God the way you want to hopefully in a way that’s compatible with what He commands with respect to doctrines. So in response to your cherry “hello it’s nice to meet you.”, I hope you’re actually following sound first century Christian church Biblical doctrines the rest of the week, including keeping the weekly holy day known as the Saturday / Sabbath (technically sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) wherever you are. 😊

Hi there! There’s also no Scripture commanding Sunday, while there has been one since Genesis on keeping Saturday as holy. Since you seem to want to worship on Sunday you should be happy to learn that the first century church and all the true church groups that follow all of their doctrines do in fact, keep one specific Sunday every year and that is Pentecost as counted 50 days or seven sabbaths of complete weeks starting inclusively on the morning after the Sabbath during the days of unleavened bread so that comes out on one day of the year which is Pentecost and other times during the year when an annual holy day falls on the first day of a week. What’s also of a “big hello” is that there’s no scripture authorizing the weekly day of rest to become Sunday, much less commanding it. You are correct in saying a lot of people before Constantine, we’re keeping Sunday. But they were keeping Sunday instead of keeping Saturday and that started a great big controversy between the Eastern church at the time and the Roman church. If that wasn’t enough fun, the Roman church decided that they would keep Easter and stop keeping Passover and that was more fun between the bishops of the east and the bishops of the west until finally, it got to be a knockdown drag out doctrinal fight, and Constantine finally settled It. Do you think Constantine settled it because he really was such a wonderful guy? I’m not his judge yet. I do think he was smart enough to realize that Christianity was the only religion that had the possibility of unifying his empire, and therefore his control over that empire. That would only be the case if they stop fighting amongst themselves so, you can look historically they had a conference finally resolved it in favor of the bishop of Rome and Constantine said that it came over anybody who deviates it from it is as good as dead, and some of them were dead as a result. Nothing of any of that justifies suggesting that keeping Sunday is “OK” as a SUBSTITUTE for keeping the Sabbath, or “OK” keeping Easter (a long ago pagan kept holiday.) You can certainly look up the Quartodeciman controversy. This was the argument over jumping Passover and adopting Easter and led to or was concurrent to the degree with the argument of shifting from the Sabbath to Sunday. If interested, you can look up the letters between Polycarp and the bishop of Rome, polarities, etc. if you would like further information, go to the United Chirch Of God website and put in keyword/Sunday Easter Passover and you’ll find their literature about it and you’re always invited to contact a United Church Of God minister in your area. You can find a list of UCG congregations near you and you can reach out to one of them and say I’ve got some doctrinal questions. You could say: “I’d like to talk with you as you local congregation seem to meet Within 20 miles of where I live, so why don’t we get a phone call together or maybe a zoom call or meet somewhere for coffee and I can ask you some questions that have been bothering me?” The Sabbath was a commanded weekly holy day from creation and nothing changed about that in spite of all “all laws have been done away with arguments”, ALL of which are scripturally unsound. So what are you really telling us is that you want go worship on Sunday? That’s OK so long as you’re keeping the Sabbath. If you want worship God twice a week I don’t think anybody’s going to try to stop you, if you’ve got time, you can take the Sabbath off to worship God the way He command it and then devote another day to worship God the way you want to hopefully in a way that’s compatible with what He commands with respect to doctrines. So in response to your cherry “hello it’s nice to meet you.”, I hope you’re actually following sound first century Christian church Biblical doctrines the rest of the week, including keeping the weekly holy day known as the Saturday / Sabbath (technically sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) wherever you are. 😊

@@e.richardscholz2338 - I think Sunday observance is an Apostolic command. #1. If the church is commanded by Paul to assemble; and, #2. If the only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper; and, #3. If the specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week; then #4. Christians are to come together every first day of the week to partake of the Lord's Supper memorial meal.

@@KononR-gz4vo yeah it’s a big “if” and all they were doing was getting together and having food there’s no commandment for a weekly communion communion was a term of getting together. What is commanded is a memorial service once a year commemorating Christ death and was often as you do that you do within remembrance of him, but you do it once a year so you like every Catholic and Protestant are totally getting the point wrong about what that was. It wasn’t a communion service even though it was on the first day of the week you have to find something that happened on the first day of the week it could’ve been a freaking barbecue and you would call it justification for keeping weekly or monthly communion, using bread and wine. Totally unjustifiable by scripture alone

@@e.richardscholz2338 - Consider these details for the above pointers listed: Pointer #1. The church is commanded by Paul to assemble. 1 Corinthians 11:17-18 Hebrews 10:25 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 Pointer #2. The only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper. 1 Corinthians 11:17-34 - - - NOTE: THE SPECIFIC DAY RULE * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done yearly, He revealed the specific day of a specific month (e.g. Leviticus 23:5). * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done monthly, He revealed the specific day of the month, but no specific month (e.g. Numbers 28:14; Numbers 29:6). * When God commanded a memorial (meal/feast) to be done weekly, He revealed the specific day of the week (e.g., Exodus 20:8-11). Hence - (a) A commanded memorial meal necessitates a specific day on which to partake. Paul's words, "the rest will I SET IN ORDER when I come" (1 Corinthians 11:34). (b) Christians are commanded by Paul to partake of a memorial meal (1 Corinthians 11:23-34); and, (c) Therefore, Christians are commanded to partake of the Lord's Supper ON A SPECIFIC DAY. IT MUST BE A SPECIFIED "DAY" ** There is no specific day of a specific month revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is not to partake of the Lord's Supper yearly. ** There is no specific day in a month revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is not to partake of the Lord's Supper monthly. ** There IS a specific day of the week revealed to Christians in the New Covenant Law. Therefore, the assembled church is to partake of the Lord's Supper weekly. - - - Pointer #3. The specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week. 1 Corinthians 10:15-16; and, Acts 20:7 * In Corinthians 16:1-2, Paul instructs the Church to gather on the first day for collections. Most naturally, seeing the great significance of Sunday, it was the day they gathered for worship (breaking bread) as well. *It can be argued that the "breaking of bread" is just an expression for having a meal. Example is in the feeding of the crowds in Matthew 15:36. But in 1 Corinthians 10:15-16 we see Paul associating the breaking of bread with Holy Communion. *THE KEY TAKE AWAY PASSAGE SUPPORTING SUNDAY OBSERVANCE AND ITS ASSEMBLY FOR HOLY COMMUNION IS FOUND IN Acts 20:7, which states, *"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."* Acts 20:7 is the ONLY text in the entire New Testament where the day on which a specific Christian worship service is held is actually named. Other texts might mention the day of the week, but they don’t state that a Christian worship service was held on that day. Yet other texts might mention a Christian worship service, but are not linked to a specific day of the week. Acts 20:7 is the only passage in the Bible that puts the two together in one passage... Pointer #4. In sum - TO ATTACK SUNDAY WORSHIP IS TO ATTACK THE MEMORIAL FEAST OF THE LORD'S SUPPER FOR OUR SALVATION. The church is commanded to assemble, and the only memorial meal of which the church is commanded to partake when assembled is the Lord's Supper, and the specified day on which the church partook of the Lord's Supper memorial meal was the first day of the week. Therefore, Christians are to come together every first day of the week to partake of the Lord's Supper memorial meal.

Only a simpleton fool believes & reveres the supernatural fairy tales, fictions & myths just because a book claims itself to be the holy truth.

Then you are grafted into the Church of the Firstborn written in heaven? He 12:23

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

@@AtamMardes Thats religion but truth came through Jesus Christ.

@@ronnieturner1356 Unfortunately you're not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly. You're only parroting the stuff you happen to have been indoctrinated with.

If there was no Grace before the cross how did Adam and Eve stay alive? Titus 2:11 tells us that Grace has always existed and any sensible understanding of it can only mean that Grace has not saved anyone, all it does is give us the opportunity to know, believe and follow Jesus so that we can be saved by Him.

@@cantablocal6768 You obviously didn't understand what I said! 1. Where did I say Grace didn't exist before the Cross? I said the GOSPEL OF GRACE! Before the Crross the Law applied & the sacrifice had to be carried out once a year! Jesus became THE sacrifice after at the Cross once for all times & the Law was replaced fully by the Gospel of Grace! People in "church" still pray the Lord's Prayer & continuesly ask the Lord to "And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors." Matthew 6:12 (KJV). Why do we pray that when Jesus once & for did that on the Cross? You need to brush up on your reasoning ability & please answer Paul's comment in Galatians 1:8-9!

@@cantablocal6768 When you quote the Bible please always give the book you are quoting from aswell as the chapter, verse & version of the Bible & not just the book & the word?

@@cantablocal6768 by the way I have just read Titus 2:11. Let ask you firstly 1. Who wrote the book of Titus? 2. Who was Paul talking to? 3. Where does it say Gra e existed before the Cross as in the sentence Paul says "For the Grace of God that bringeth SALVATION hath appeared to all men"! Suggest you ALWAYS READ THE VERSE BEFORE & AFTER & understand everything in context! So the Crucified Jesus didn't need to give Paul the Gospel of Grace as according to you, Grace's has always existed!!!!

@@paulkruger1945 I think that if I know the verse then others should know it also. Salvation has always been the same, I change not, nothing in the law will change are 2 well known quotes, Heb 11 says the same. Read Ezekiel 36:26-27 and the new covenant promises in Jeremiah and Hebrews also. Mt 7:21-24 along with Paul's warning against the works of the flesh in Galatians 5 are just 2 of many warnings in the NT against breaking the law of God.

You are “A” church! You are “THE” church of the living God as taught by the Apostles to both Jew and gentile converts, If and ONLY if you follow their doctrines. Otherwise you’re somebody else’s church, maybe your own! Wouldn’t be surprised if Satan went to church. Plenty of options available that can’t pass the doctrinal test required to be THE church. 😊

@@e.richardscholz2338 The only way any of us could be the church is if we were resurrected at the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Otherwise we are added to the church of the firstborn in heaven in Spirit and truth! That is the order. All earthly churches think they are the church.

There is an ecclesia which Jesus was raised out of and who were raised with Jesus. He took His church out of the earth. He sent His Spirit to seal all who believe His work at the cross. They are coming back to inherit their Promises. Believers are co heirs with them.

@@ronnieturner1356 that would make Jesus a liar. By his own words he only came for his family (the lost sheep of the house of Israel). Israel was just a family of twelve sons. He had no interest in dogs.

@@bobbybailey4623 The children killed and resurrected with Him are the lineage of Abraham Isaac and Jacob They are Rachel's Children. Israel is Jacob. Rachel is his First Love. They are family

@@ronnieturner1356 what you are saying makes no sense and doesn’t change my comment at all. The god of the Old Testament is a cruel taskmaster who shows no love only vengeance.

@@bobbybailey4623 Not my problem that you hate God. Take it up with Him.

That doesn't mean those two are baptised by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Christ. Only Paul's Gospel of Grace can do that for anyone who believes it.

Do you really think it’s so unconditional they don’t actually have to be keeping Christian doctrines. It’s very clear. He was talking to believers who were being led by the very people. He personally trained to do things the way he personally wanted them or required them by the laws of God to do. Just because you’re getting together in his name And worshiping doesn’t guarantee he’s gonna be there with you. Yes, you don’t have to be an organized church, but why would you not want to get together when we are commanded to assemble for a lot of good reasons including helping each other grow. I’ve seen a whole Lotta people who because of circumstance health they get together in a living room. I mean fact you’re interested there are groups out there that have list of people in your area who are doing that. I’m assuming you’re not saying that that’s all you have to do and that the doctrines that Mr. Shay said are not going to be necessary simply because two or three of you were getting together. I’m hoping after I’ve beat this drum with everybody else I’ve talked to that you’ve got the message That you still have to do it the way the first century Church did it! If this is some kind of way to say well, I don’t need to then just say start off your comment with: “I do not have to do what Mr. Shabi says I should do to be part of the church Christ built because I’m doing XYZ instead.” 🧐

@@e.richardscholz2338 I'm pretty sure Jesus was talking to Israel according to their prophecy and their doctrine. He sent Paul to talk to the Body of Christ Church after Israel fell and diminished.

You sound like a Mormon. If you are, how can you be teaching only the doctrines of the first century church that Jesus started? 🧐???

The pastor will have to explain his doctrinal shift to somebody more powerful and with more authority than you or me. Clearly, it seems he’s taking away from the word of God now the specific reference for punishing for doing that with in the book of revelation, and whether the phrase applies to just this book meeting that one book of revelation or this book meeting, the entirety of scripture is a matter of great importance. I don’t see how you can take away some of the word of God and not be taking it away from all of the word of God so I guess the comparison you made us unfortunate one for the person who is that that pastor most likely but it doesn’t make much more sense to me for you to bring it up then if you said well, the speed limit is 70 miles an hour, but I found a cop that would let me go 75. Maybe he doesn’t have any penalty for letting you do thatI’m not sure it’s going to be like that cop.

What work do they do? They might be involved in healthcare or something else that fits within the instruction that it is lawful to do good on Sabbath? Judge not is a message to us as well so I have probably said enough.

This is the Worldwide Church of God rebranded.

The sabbath was given at creation to all of mankind. It wasn’t brought into existence at the time the 10 Commandments were given at Mount Sinai. It was included in them.

@Charles73358 Sir, thank you for your detailed explanation of the quite commonly understood and believed thought process used to negate and remove the foundational role of the 10 Commandments in the lives of true Christians. There is so much error in this heretical teaching that one pauses with appreciation for having been afforded such a target rich opportunity to speak against it. To thoroughly purge these heretical teachings from one’s theological colon after having such waste baked in and stuck for the better part of 2000 year would take 35 or more pages of small printed text and this is not the environment or platform or “theological diaper” in which to do such a thing. Starting with basics, however, one remembers that Christ was criticizing the Pharisees for the burdens that their man-made laws put on believers and you could find that in Matthew 23 verse four. Years after his conversion, Paul found himself having to confront those with Pharisaical believes who were intended on forcing adherence to traditional “works of law on newly converted Christians. In particular in the churches of Galatia faced this problem. Many scholars have long recognized that Paul’s letter to the Galatians primarily addresses the issue of Judaizers, who wanted Galatian believers to adopt Jewish customs, become circumcised, even follow the traditions of the Pharisees. The Judaizers were attempting to seduce the Galatians into practicing works of law which have nothing to do with the true religion of Moses in the Old Testament. Given the widespread acceptance of the Protestant belief that the law has somehow been nullified by Christ sacrifice, it’s easy to have a mindset that one must choose between ‘Law or Grace’. The correct question to address is the principal that validates true Scriptural understanding and that is one of “law and grace“. The law of God does not violate or abolish the absolute requirement of grace. Having received the gift of God, which is Grace rather than the wages of sin , which is death, there are things we must do and others we must NOT do. We are not as New Testament Christians allowed to live any lifestyle we choose simply because we falsely believe we can throw all of our ongoing sinful behaviors onto Christ forever after baptism, and still be part of the church and enter the kingdom of God, which even to a child should sound illogical. People who do hold fast to these beliefs are very careful to cherry pick Paul’s Scriptures. In particular there is one they would avoid like rat poison and that is when Paul ask the rhetorical question about sinning mightily so grace may abound, precise phrasing attributed to Martin Luther centuries later. See Romans 6:1-2: and then continuing on. When you’re more ready for the Strong meat, you will find the Scriptures on your own where Paul clearly condemns behaviors such as idolatry and ungodly sexual practices as just qualifying people from having access to the kingdom of heaven, which by the way does not mean in heaven. “www.bibleref.com/Romans/6/Romans-6-1.html” Would you let a child run around your house violating everything that’s required for a safe household and stable family?? I think not. Even though this might seem a little bit of a overly scatological image, it did give us an opportunity for me to encourage you and others to explore what is essentially a highly powered relational database on the ucg.org website. For example, here are the link to the question I posed to it in roughly the following words: “are the 10 Commandments done away with” www.ucg.org/search/site/Are%20the%20commandments%20of%20God%20done%20away%20with I’m not sure the pasted version of this and UA-cam will actually produce the link necessary to access the results so I encourage all to go right to the website and ask the question on the search bar or the magnifying glass icon. If you do this, you’ll find a lot of interesting media some of which is in video form others in booklets which address and debunk rather thoroughly all of these heretical beliefs that people not necessarily you but many people use so they can live a totally godless lifestyle and at the same time lie to themselves Believing that somehow it won’t matter and they will still have salvation guaranteed to them. This is a particularly toxic, dangerous and ultimately fatal belief system to adopt, so I encourage everyone to take a hard look at it because no matter how well it’s written or using a more acceptable nutritional analogy: “no matter how pretty the cake it might be baked in, arsenic is still going to kill you.” Have a blessed day!

You write a lot, unfortunately for you it is wrong because you are trying to defend the lie that you believe instead of letting scripture explain itself.

Jesus always said that The Father was greater than himself. In John 4:23 Jesus said that the true worshippers shall worship The Father (The father of Jesus) in spirit and in true...

I think most people in this church would agree that Jesus is God the father’s son.

@@jeepjason94 yes, must churches in the world and even the demons know that Jesus is the Son of God.

Yes. The book of John says that before anything was created, there was God, and there was the word and the word was God, and the word was with God and the word became flesh and dwell among us and yet Christ always said the father is greater than I can do nothing without him so I don’t know how much more in line with, what you understand the doctrine to be then what we’re doing is without question this actual view of the godhead. Two beings right now eventually become a family with children of God, living at the God, plain level of existence instead of in bodies of flesh that decay.

I used to hold God responsible for what men did and finally recognized His love for me had never wavered and the problem was with imperfect men. I no longer hold any man up on a pedestal but look to my Father in heaven alone. I don't forsake the assembly because of fallible men, and do respect the office of those in charge, but salvation must be worked out in our individual relationship with God. I don't want to stand before Him on the judgment day and think I have a defense for lack of obedience because of what men did that harmed me.

Try again. You’ll likely find the ministry team has changed and I’m confident that if you have a question it will be answered.

Hi Vivian, I’m not a part of this sect. It has excellent teaching. Yet, it doesn’t preach Ya’s first love. If you are interested in pure scripture rightly divided I’m available. I’m on the Wast Coast. How may I be of service.

30,000 denominations.

@@MichaelTheophilus906 One is one too many

@@MichaelTheophilus906 I have read as many as 46k

It gives only 1 true Ecclesia.The sign is : The SABBATH. A small Church, Luke 12:32

@@ruthsmith3219 A small group of disciples. Luke 12:22 Jesus is addressing disciples. The ecclesia is the resurrected firstfruits, the 144ooo. The Sabbath is a perpetual sign throughout generations. Their resurrection is a miracle sign of God's Work which has been spoken against since the first century. Luke 2:34

Jesus is our sabbath.

Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath

@@MichaelTheophilus906 By this, are you meaning to say that we should no longer observe the law?

If they (Sda) left off having a prophet and stopped some of their doctrines we could talk but they make high prophesions but don't live up to any of it.

@@Marie070 Ellen White was the messenger of the LORD. The sabbath is the 7th day. sda pride = fallen angel inspiration

I’m not sure I follow what you’re saying. Are you saying there shouldt be preachers? Or there shouldn’t be organized religion? Also, where is the idolatry you speak of in the church this video was about?

@@jeepjason94 There is no such thing as a tithe today.

@@ronnieturner1356 only a requirement to be generous with all of our resources.

@@jeepjason94 Help those who are less fortunate

Tithing or not tithing is an entirely separate issue when the context of the video itself dealt with some very fundamental beliefs that the Bible clearly requires of Christians. I’m not hearing objections to those questions raised in the video. It’s obvious those are all things that are practiced by mainstream Christianity and nobody’s discussing those. They’re bringing up several issues here so I think I’d rather stay focused on the subject that was brought up in the video than these other important doctrinal issues people are bringing up. Tithing or not tithing is a separate controversial issue among believers, whether they believe in the keeping the Sabbath or Sunday